Dr Catherine Oliver is a geographer and researcher currently working with urban chickens and keepers in London at the Department of Geography, University of Cambridge. From September of this year, she will be relocating to Lancaster University where she will be a Lecturer in the Sociology of Climate Change. Catherine published her first book, Veganism, Archives and Animals, with Routledge in 2021 and writes widely about animals from a geographical perspective in academic and public-facing forums, especially focussed on chickens.   Join our conversation At the end of the podcast, Catherine asks: How would the world be for a chicken? What would it smell like, look like, feel like? Think with us on our Mural board, Click here. About the host, Chetana Pai: Chetana (she/her) is a recent graduate of the University of Twente and has a Masters degree in Interaction Technology. She is especially interested and has worked on research to do with human interaction, human experience, movement, music, technology, and the combination of these fields. In addition to this,

    Ilyena Hirskyj-Douglas is Lecturer/Assistant Professor in Animal-Computer Interaction at The University of Glasgow in Scotland (UK). Her research explores how animals interact with computer systems and how to designing and build methods to capture this interaction. She is interested in exploring what it means for animals to interact with technologies and how we can create, design, and support meaningful exchanges between humans, animals, and technology. Examples of my work include a DogPhone systems for dogs to communicate over the internet and a Monkey Tunnel system for monkeys to play videos and audio whenever they choose. Ilyena got her Masters and a PhD degree in Computer Science from the University of Central Lancashire (UCLan) (UK) and undertook a three year postdoc at Aalto University (FI). She publishes primarily in Human-Computer Interaction (HCI) and animal science in top conferences/journals such as CHI, IJHCS, CSCW, ISS, Animals, etc. My research is regularly featured in international news, radio and TV broadcasts such as The BBC, The Guardian, New Scientist, Wired Magazine, The New York

Klaas Kuitenbrouwer studied history at the University of Utrecht, developed an art practice that moved into the field of digital culture. Since the late1990ies Klaas works at the intersections of culture, technology and ecology and I research, curate and moderate events in this field.  Currently, he work as researcher at Het Nieuwe Instituut in Rotterdam, primarily in the context of digital culture. Klaas was responsible for – among other projects – the Garden of Machines (2015), 51Sprints (2016) Gardening Mars (2017), co-curated the Neuhaus Temporary Academy for more-than-human knowledge (2019).  Since  developing the zoöp project, a legal format for collaboration between humans and collective bodies of nonhumans. He has been teaching media and other theory at the Rietveld Academy since 2002. A consistent element in my work is the intersection of different knowledge practices: technological, artistic, legal, scientific, and nonhuman. Shownotes 00:00:00 Introduction / 00:01:48 The zoöp model/ 00:04:00  Laws and seperation / 00:06:00 The learning process of zoöp/ 00:09:00 What does it mean to exist as a non-human? / 00:12:00